Swami Agnivesh was likely to meet the Jathedar yesterday following his talks with dera head Gurmit Ram Rahim Singh on 22nd May. However, he did not arrive in Amritsar yesterday. “We have been told that they wanted to come here. They are welcome, this house of the Almighty is open for all,” said Jathedar Vedanti.
He said options for talks should always remain open, apology from the dera head would “definitely ease prevailing tension” and might pave way for amicable religious solution.
Swami Agnivesh, who is a well-known social activist working for the inter-religious and inter-faith dialogues, had claimed a breakthrough in the stand-off after meeting the dera head.
Though he claimed that mutually acceptable solution would soon be worked out, instead of coming to the Holy City, the committee members left for Delhi.
Meanwhile, though peaceniks are making efforts to iron out differences, the Swami emerged as a major interlocutor. Though he has not disclosed whether the Dera chief had agreed to apologise, there was likelihood that he would bring some good tidings.
In a TV interview, Swami Agnivesh was looking positive. He had went to meet Dera head along with other religious leader. They all had a long discussion with the Dera head and their committee members. And according to him, Dera was supposed to release another press note and it is believed that this time they will apologise without playing with the words, to ease the tension.
When asked about when was the Swami expected, the Jathedar said as committee members had not made any direct contact with them at the Takht’s secretariat or the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC), they were unaware of their coming to the city so far.
There were, meanwhile, reports that the Swami, along with some other members of other religious communities, might arrive here in the evening.
Thursday, May 24, 2007
Monday, May 21, 2007
NDTV Talk Show - Storm within Sikhism (6 Parts)
(Part 1 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi8F_vMWjqA
(Part 2 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNK8XgRbets
(Part 3 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2pRrcyYn-U
(Part 4 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wndFdZCKAOw
(Part 5 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrlISD05TGk
(Part 6 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuWx4O6nLm4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi8F_vMWjqA
(Part 2 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNK8XgRbets
(Part 3 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2pRrcyYn-U
(Part 4 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wndFdZCKAOw
(Part 5 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrlISD05TGk
(Part 6 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuWx4O6nLm4
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Dera Baba exposed by IBN7
Letter of Sadhvi (lady from dera) where she has talked about the sex exploitation .......
Sunday, May 20, 2007
Jhootha Dera and its Baba
The baba lives in an 18-acre stronghold within the mini-township. When he emerges, he moves around in regal style surrounded by his bodyguards.
In 2001, Rajinder, a follower, fell-out with the leader and sometime later he was murdered at his hometown in Kurukshetra. Two Dera members are accused in this murder case.
Then a year later, Ram Chander Chatrapati, a local journalist, printed a letter that had allegations of sexual abuse by an anonymous woman against the Dera chief.
Chatrapati was shot dead at his home. Three Dera followers were arrested in the case, two of which were held at the murder site.
''The people from the Dera had threatened my father and then one day he was shot dead,'' said Anshul, Son of Ram Chander Chatrapati.
Now all these cases are being investigated by the CBI .
''We've said everything we had to and we won't say anything now,'' said Dr Aditya Arora, Spokesman, Dera Sacha Sauda.
Controversies notwithstanding, the baba's clout has grown.
The Dera's appeal is to largely to the marginalized and backward sections the Dalits - a potent political force which the Dera chief successfully tested in February.
In the Punjab elections in 2007, he asked his followers to vote for the Congress, something that helped the party improve its tally in the southern area known as Malwa.
The Dera chief's son is married to the daughter of a Congress MLA. But it's not clear whether the chief will be playing a more prominent role.
For now, peace-negotiators have told him to lie low.
(Source: NDTV)
Akal Takhat Sahib Verdict
Akal Takhat Sahib refused REGRET Plea . It called it as foul trap / drama ( Dera Head never felt sorry till now, he just twisting situation)
Few of the brief points of Akal Takhat Sahib Hukam (verdict) is:
a) Complete Punjab bandh on 22nd May, 2007
b) All dera's to be closed in Punjab till 27th May, 2007
c) CBI should complete enquiry against baba by May end.
d) Next Akal Takhat Sahib meet is on 31st May to take next action
Sikhs supporting Akal Takhat Sahib edict with loud jaikara's.
Few of the brief points of Akal Takhat Sahib Hukam (verdict) is:
a) Complete Punjab bandh on 22nd May, 2007
b) All dera's to be closed in Punjab till 27th May, 2007
c) CBI should complete enquiry against baba by May end.
d) Next Akal Takhat Sahib meet is on 31st May to take next action
Sikhs supporting Akal Takhat Sahib edict with loud jaikara's.
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Amritsar Meeting - Part 2
CID personal caught with revolver in Akal Takht Sahib meeting....
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Dera Baba Regrets over the issue
After creating so much of tension, Dera Baba regrets for the entire issue. Is it acceptable? If he calls himself Saint and Insaan then why is he having so much of ego? He could have said that ... "I apologise to Sikh Sangat if my act has hurt them in anyways".
Please read the other posts to know about the entire issue:
http://jaspreetsingh.blogspot.com/2007/05/why-sikhs-are-angry.html
http://jaspreetsingh.blogspot.com/2007/05/dera-jhuta-sauda-know-them.html
or visit this site:
http://akalpurakhkifauj.googlepages.com/eyeopener-derasachasuada
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Saturday, May 19, 2007
IBN 7 - Face to Face
Part 1 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l0-Y02LO2k
Part 2 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LtszbslEY4
Part 3 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjiU1K1t2go
Part 4 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMZbtiPOZak
Part 5 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3jzk7qgLS0
Part 6 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcPt3rM216M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l0-Y02LO2k
Part 2 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LtszbslEY4
Part 3 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjiU1K1t2go
Part 4 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMZbtiPOZak
Part 5 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3jzk7qgLS0
Part 6 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcPt3rM216M
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Friday, May 18, 2007
Interview of Dera Spokesperson
In the interview he is asking about the issue to reporter, this is the issue... http://jaspreetsingh.blogspot.com/2007/05/why-sikhs-are-angry.html
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Dera Jhuta Sauda - Know them..
I think people here dont know the reality of DERA SACHA SAUDA. This would give them some idea.
I will like to tell all members what I saw & heard on TV.
A reporter of INDIA Tv asked secreatery of Dr. Aditya, spokeperson of Dera : "When Dera says it is a religious & humanity movement why the Dera supported Congress in assembly election, why is Dera doing politics?"
you all will be surprised with the answer of Dr. Aditya which is exteremely insult of Hindus & Sikhs.
Dr. Aditya: "You tell me who had not done politics. Ram killed a person with the help of different species(Vanars) wasn't that politics? Krishan helped Arjun in Mahabharat wasn't that politics? Guru Gobind singh created his own army to fight mughals wasn't that politics? This is my answer to you question."
Dera Sachha Sauda, supremeo, Gurmeet Ram Raheem is a criminal. They have there headquarter in Sirsa(Haryana). So many criminal cases are filed against him which includes murders, rapes, extortism(Even a CBI inquiry is going on against him). He has Congress backing.
They are misleading so many Hindus & Sikhs and diverting both of them from their religions (Converting them to their self-made SACHA religion and making them so called INSAAN and we saw their insaaniyat on Monday when they were throwing stones and beating Punjab Police and Media persons in Bathinda).
(Source: an Indian)
I will like to tell all members what I saw & heard on TV.
A reporter of INDIA Tv asked secreatery of Dr. Aditya, spokeperson of Dera : "When Dera says it is a religious & humanity movement why the Dera supported Congress in assembly election, why is Dera doing politics?"
you all will be surprised with the answer of Dr. Aditya which is exteremely insult of Hindus & Sikhs.
Dr. Aditya: "You tell me who had not done politics. Ram killed a person with the help of different species(Vanars) wasn't that politics? Krishan helped Arjun in Mahabharat wasn't that politics? Guru Gobind singh created his own army to fight mughals wasn't that politics? This is my answer to you question."
Dera Sachha Sauda, supremeo, Gurmeet Ram Raheem is a criminal. They have there headquarter in Sirsa(Haryana). So many criminal cases are filed against him which includes murders, rapes, extortism(Even a CBI inquiry is going on against him). He has Congress backing.
They are misleading so many Hindus & Sikhs and diverting both of them from their religions (Converting them to their self-made SACHA religion and making them so called INSAAN and we saw their insaaniyat on Monday when they were throwing stones and beating Punjab Police and Media persons in Bathinda).
(Source: an Indian)
Punjab happening - get the true picture
1. This is not an issue of Akalis going for a revenge. Anyone in power would not ask for the trouble. This is a case of Sikh sentiments being hurt.
(News channels have repeatedly being saying that its a fight over faith between Dera and Akali Sikhs. This is totally false! It's a fight between "All Sikhs" and the Dera)
2. The instigation has deliberately been done by the Dera Baba who has tried to imitate the tenth Master of the Sikhs.
3. Its not just dress code, he has tried to play and mimic with the teachings of the Guru Sahib- instituting his own style amrit like
- he has 7 persons for his sharabat first and Guru Gobind Singh ji has panj pyare (5 beloved ones)
- he asked his followers to use "Insaan" with their names and everyone know that it was Guru Gobind Singh ji who asked Sikhs to use Singh (for males) and Kaur (for females) with their names.
and unfortunately just the way it happened in 1978 that led to operation bluestar and then 84 riots.
4. Anyone Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or Christian who has slightest knowledge of Sikhism can easily make out the intentions behind the ads.
5. The Dera followers were aware of the instigation and were prepared for the Sikh reactions. within hours of Sikh Protest 12000 Dera followers came armed and created havoc in Bathinda. Most of them were armed with same size of lathis as reported by News Channel.
6. The congress behind these instigations and trouble is factually proven by photgraphs and videos, as almost 6 congress MLAs were part of the mob which created havoc in Bathinda.
7. Tolerance does not mean that you demean the prophets of any religion and then ask the people not to react. And mind it the reactions by Sikhs have been democratic and mostly peaceful.
8. There were 1.5 lakh Sikhs yesterday at Sabo ki Talvandi to protest against the Deras misendeavors. Has there been any violence or damage to public property? What more can be the tolerance?
9. It was Dera followers who opened fire to the crowd coming back from Talwandi Sabo. Their Dera is on the main road and they opened fire, killing 1 Sikh (Kamaljit Singh) and injuring several others. How come Dera followers got armed with guns and ammunition?
10. Dera followers distributing lathis (sticks) and collecting stones was shown in one of the news channel on Thursday evening.
11. There are hundreds of Deras running in Punjab and never ever the Sikhs harassed or protested against them. Yes unless these Deras have tried to deliberately play with Sikh sentiments.
12. I would request all to support Sikh sentiments and expose this Dera.
13. I would also request Sikh bretheren to not to play in the hands of politicians. Let us maintain our composure and peacefully protest against the Dera Head's misadventure.
(News channels have repeatedly being saying that its a fight over faith between Dera and Akali Sikhs. This is totally false! It's a fight between "All Sikhs" and the Dera)
2. The instigation has deliberately been done by the Dera Baba who has tried to imitate the tenth Master of the Sikhs.
3. Its not just dress code, he has tried to play and mimic with the teachings of the Guru Sahib- instituting his own style amrit like
- he has 7 persons for his sharabat first and Guru Gobind Singh ji has panj pyare (5 beloved ones)
- he asked his followers to use "Insaan" with their names and everyone know that it was Guru Gobind Singh ji who asked Sikhs to use Singh (for males) and Kaur (for females) with their names.
and unfortunately just the way it happened in 1978 that led to operation bluestar and then 84 riots.
4. Anyone Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or Christian who has slightest knowledge of Sikhism can easily make out the intentions behind the ads.
5. The Dera followers were aware of the instigation and were prepared for the Sikh reactions. within hours of Sikh Protest 12000 Dera followers came armed and created havoc in Bathinda. Most of them were armed with same size of lathis as reported by News Channel.
6. The congress behind these instigations and trouble is factually proven by photgraphs and videos, as almost 6 congress MLAs were part of the mob which created havoc in Bathinda.
7. Tolerance does not mean that you demean the prophets of any religion and then ask the people not to react. And mind it the reactions by Sikhs have been democratic and mostly peaceful.
8. There were 1.5 lakh Sikhs yesterday at Sabo ki Talvandi to protest against the Deras misendeavors. Has there been any violence or damage to public property? What more can be the tolerance?
9. It was Dera followers who opened fire to the crowd coming back from Talwandi Sabo. Their Dera is on the main road and they opened fire, killing 1 Sikh (Kamaljit Singh) and injuring several others. How come Dera followers got armed with guns and ammunition?
10. Dera followers distributing lathis (sticks) and collecting stones was shown in one of the news channel on Thursday evening.
11. There are hundreds of Deras running in Punjab and never ever the Sikhs harassed or protested against them. Yes unless these Deras have tried to deliberately play with Sikh sentiments.
12. I would request all to support Sikh sentiments and expose this Dera.
13. I would also request Sikh bretheren to not to play in the hands of politicians. Let us maintain our composure and peacefully protest against the Dera Head's misadventure.
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Blast in Hyderabad mosque kills 5
Five people were and 32 others injured when a powerful bomb exploded during Friday prayers at the historic Mecca mosque in the Charminar area of Hyderabad.
Two live bombs were also detected from the spot soon after the explosions and were defused.
Reports suggest the blast was caused by a crude bomb, perhaps activated by a cell phone, which exploded when thousands of people were gathered in the mosque for prayers.
A central forensic team has been sent to Hyderabad to help determine the cause of the blast.
The injured have been rushed to Osmania and other hospitals by the worshippers in whatever modes of transport they could arrange.
Following the blast, Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore have been put on high alert.
Angry outburst
The explosion created such a panic that those gathered for the prayers started running towards the exit gate of the mosque, said to be over 400-years-old and considered sacred by Muslims.
According to the police, the motive for the blast, which was caused by unsophisticated device, is still not clear.
A large posse of police personnel, who arrived on the scene, faced an angry crowd.
They pelted stones at the shops in the vicinity and the police, who resorted to lathicharge to disperse the crowd.
The crowds have cleared now and all shops have been are shut, the area looks like a fortess.
Close watch
Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Y S Rajshekhar Reddy, who is in Delhi, spoke to the DGP Basith and other senior state government officials to take stock of the situation.
Addressing the media, Reddy said the police was trying to bring the situation back to normal.
''When AP is going on forward march of progress, such incidents will hinder progress,'' he added.
Blaming anti-social elements, he pointed out that the blast was an intentional sabotage of the peace of the state. He has announced an ex-gratia of Rs five lakh for those killed and Rs 25,000 for those injured.
Home Minister Jana Reddy said that police reinforcements are being sent to the area and the situation will be brought under control.
The Centre is also keeping a close watch on the situation in Hyderabad.
The Union Home Ministry is in constant touch with the state government officials to monitor the situation.
(Source: NDTV)
Two live bombs were also detected from the spot soon after the explosions and were defused.
Reports suggest the blast was caused by a crude bomb, perhaps activated by a cell phone, which exploded when thousands of people were gathered in the mosque for prayers.
A central forensic team has been sent to Hyderabad to help determine the cause of the blast.
The injured have been rushed to Osmania and other hospitals by the worshippers in whatever modes of transport they could arrange.
Following the blast, Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore have been put on high alert.
Angry outburst
The explosion created such a panic that those gathered for the prayers started running towards the exit gate of the mosque, said to be over 400-years-old and considered sacred by Muslims.
According to the police, the motive for the blast, which was caused by unsophisticated device, is still not clear.
A large posse of police personnel, who arrived on the scene, faced an angry crowd.
They pelted stones at the shops in the vicinity and the police, who resorted to lathicharge to disperse the crowd.
The crowds have cleared now and all shops have been are shut, the area looks like a fortess.
Close watch
Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Y S Rajshekhar Reddy, who is in Delhi, spoke to the DGP Basith and other senior state government officials to take stock of the situation.
Addressing the media, Reddy said the police was trying to bring the situation back to normal.
''When AP is going on forward march of progress, such incidents will hinder progress,'' he added.
Blaming anti-social elements, he pointed out that the blast was an intentional sabotage of the peace of the state. He has announced an ex-gratia of Rs five lakh for those killed and Rs 25,000 for those injured.
Home Minister Jana Reddy said that police reinforcements are being sent to the area and the situation will be brought under control.
The Centre is also keeping a close watch on the situation in Hyderabad.
The Union Home Ministry is in constant touch with the state government officials to monitor the situation.
(Source: NDTV)
Thursday, May 17, 2007
Dera People Interviewed
Sikhs in the video seems ready to drink Sharabat and put Insaan after their first name but they are not ready to take Amrit given by Guru Gobind Singh ji and become Singh....
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